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Wow thank you; this interview and Sarah’s essay were both excellent reads.

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Dec 5, 2023Liked by Kelly Hayes

So much to contemplate. Not so much the specifics —“Factual observations” like Cop Cities and the coming Totalitarian state, as well as the outright demonization, and culling, of “disposable” children (actual babies, school age children, and those young adults groomed for war since birth, which includes the soldiers on both sides (terrorists are created systemically))—but what to do about it. How to mount effective countermeasures against what is coming. Unfortunately, this is what consumes most of my waking hours. Fortunately, we do have each other.

Thank you both for this.

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Dec 5, 2023Liked by Kelly Hayes

This is so excellent. things are so frightening when genocide is occurring and the rise of fascism...thank you

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Dec 5, 2023Liked by Kelly Hayes

A very meaningful conversation between two individuals who are excellent! Glad to be subscribed to both!

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Dec 10, 2023Liked by Kelly Hayes

I waited to finally read this conversation and now, at the end, I feel myself tearing up. I've read a lot of stuff over the last few weeks, trying to keep up with events and the downward tilt of the world, it seems. In the process, my outrage has felt muted. I have felt helpless to stop the worst things from happening, from escalating.

I have such enormous respect for both of you and your tireless commitment to speak truth to power. There is such clarity in your diagnoses of the political climate we find ourselves in that I am suitably horrified and also braced for more/worse to come. But the tears arrived when you both spoke of your intentions to offer to keep your Substacks free of charge. That is anti-capitalist and generous and justice-seeking in a media environment that expects the opposite of all of us, readers, writers - all of us. That commitment is also about staying open and available and accountable to each other. I understand that plenty of writers cannot afford to write essays for free. I get it. It is therefore all the more meaningful for me that both of you are invested enough *in us* to trust us with your words and ideas, to sharpen our own trajectories toward justice in action.

Thank you both for your time, energy and example. Always.

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Overwhelmed from this. As usual, Sarah takes me to the darkest place where there is no hope. Her description of Biden’s complicity is exactly right and bracing.

There is no way out. Our democracy is just going to slip away and spiral into violence. There isn’t a single shred of something we can do to stop it. And there is no organization out there which could make any difference at this point. Dems and the GOP under big money influence have destroyed America.

I feel like nothing constructive is possible.

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